At what point should abortion become legal/illegal?

[Daniel]

Okay, I realize we already have an abortion thread going... but I thought it'd be good to have a poll. This isn't just for general abortion, but basic thoughts on the timeframe when it should be declaired legal or illegal.

[Krovisser]

umbilical cord = legal.

[zrts2002]

i think it should be illegal because people shouldnt take one life for another

[Panthrophile]

umbilical cord = legal.
Yes. Agreed.

[Zerabira]

always illegal

[Kleophon]

i think it should be illegal because people shouldnt take one life for another

I agree with you, theoretically. But, in all reality, if a mother was put in a position where she felt abortion was necessary either for the child's future or for her future, and then was denied the right to abortion, then where do you draw the line? If the child will be unable to be raised in a financially-responsible place or the mother would be severly injured for the rest of her life, then what?

[LordGrace]

I think it strongly depends on the situation. If it was illegal, then a lot of children would be brouht into the world by parents who aren't capable of bringing them up properly. It it is legal at any stage I think it's cruel. A baby at 6 months, if born prematurely, has a chnace of surviving, snd shouldn't be aborted without serious reasons.

[Kleophon]

I think it strongly depends on the situation. If it was illegal, then a lot of children would be brouht into the world by parents who aren't capable of bringing them up properly. It it is legal at any stage I think it's cruel. A baby at 6 months, if born prematurely, has a chnace of surviving, snd shouldn't be aborted without serious reasons.

Exactly...

[Zerabira]

I think it strongly depends on the situation. If it was illegal, then a lot of children would be brouht into the world by parents who aren't capable of bringing them up properly. It it is legal at any stage I think it's cruel. A baby at 6 months, if born prematurely, has a chnace of surviving, snd shouldn't be aborted without serious reasons.

I see I'm gonna be repeating myself on this thread and on the other thread - they have adoption agencies for those people who are incapable of being parents and don't know what contraception or keeping their legs closed means.

[zrts2002]

umbilical cord = legal.
ALL GRILS/WOMEN HAVE UMBILICAL CORDS... underaged sex+umbilical cord=illegal

[Panthrophile]

ALL GRILS/WOMEN HAVE UMBILICAL CORDS
LIES!


The umbilical cord develops from, and contains, remnants of the yolk sac and allantois.
Eh?

[Daniel]

Fascinating.

[yellowbus]

Sorry,but I think everyone is trying to live everyone elses life, Please tell me this is not a dream and everything is perfect in this world?? We are humans and not perfect, If I would of choose to have an abortion I would have to live with it not you or anyone else. Worry about yourself and your family not everyone else.People do have mistakes,I disagree on having 2,3,4 or 5 abortions BUT it is not me and I do not have to live with it.

[Daniel]

Sorry,but I think everyone is trying to live everyone elses life, Please tell me this is not a dream and everything is perfect in this world?? We are humans and not perfect, If I would of choose to have an abortion I would have to live with it not you or anyone else. Worry about yourself and your family not everyone else.People do have mistakes,I disagree on having 2,3,4 or 5 abortions BUT it is not me and I do not have to live with it.

I believe it is everyone's problem.

[omni]

Sorry,but I think everyone is trying to live everyone elses life, Please tell me this is not a dream and everything is perfect in this world?? We are humans and not perfect, If I would of choose to have an abortion I would have to live with it not you or anyone else. Worry about yourself and your family not everyone else.People do have mistakes,I disagree on having 2,3,4 or 5 abortions BUT it is not me and I do not have to live with it.

I agree. The lawmakers shouldn't interfere with our lives. Many of them don't know how it is to be in people's positions; they are just human afterall, and to see life through many people's perspectives just isn't possible for those busy politicians, that's why I think things like abortion, cannibis, suicide, and all banned drugs should be legalized. It is our life; not theirs.

[Daniel]

I agree. The lawmakers shouldn't interfere with our lives. Many of them don't know how it is to be in people's positions; they are just human afterall, and to see life through many people's perspectives just isn't possible for those busy politicians, that's why I think things like abortion, cannibis, suicide, and all banned drugs should be legalized. It is our life; not theirs.

But where do you draw the line? I see where you personally do, but how do we, as a society, draw the line?

It's clear we want the "lawmakers" to interfere with our lives. Your statement is one of the most naive I've read in a while, with all due respect. If they didn't "interfere with our lives" then we wouldn't have laws, and if we didn't have laws, they wouldn't be lawmakers. The fact is, we need someone to set standards, and in this case, they'd be set by the "lawmakers" who are, when end comes to end, set by you.

To sum it up, the issue isn't weather or not we want the government or others to interfere with our life or set the standard. Obviously we do, at least the majority of us do. If not, we wouldn't live in this country (US, in my case). The issue is how does society as a whole come to a compromise.

[Crystal Shards]

I'm unsure, but I am pro choice. I think probably in the first trimester it shouldn't be disallowed at all, and only with a good reason in the second trimester. In the third... only in extreme cases.

~Crystal

[Daniel]

I'm unsure, but I am pro choice. I think probably in the first trimester it shouldn't be disallowed at all, and only with a good reason in the second trimester. In the third... only in extreme cases.

~Crystal

So like, they have two chances or something, but have to meet certain guidelines?

[Illuminatus]

I'm unsure, but I am pro choice. I think probably in the first trimester it shouldn't be disallowed at all, and only with a good reason in the second trimester. In the third... only in extreme cases.

~Crystal

Why would a good reason be needed for the first and second trimesters? It implies that you think that after a certain amount of time abortion is 'baby murder' yet you would allow such a thing within reason?

[Daniel]

Why would a good reason be needed for the first and second trimesters? It implies that you think that after a certain amount of time abortion is 'baby murder' yet you would allow such a thing within reason?

Exactly my thoughts. You need to draw a line somewhere.

[Gedron]

If you have sex you should be resposible for the consequences. As for rape, I think if you do not wish to keep the child then put it up for adoption. If the mother is in danger during child birth then I would recommend attempting to take the child out in the best way possible. For disfigured infants, although it is a tragedy, it does happen. I have met several people who were born disfigured but are great individuals and I was very glad they have the strength to push through that and make something of themselves. If stem cell research became more popular and works the way I hope it does, disfigurement shouldn't matter anymore though. If abortion were to remain legal I believe the father should have a say so in the situation as well.

[zrts2002]

i think that we need to make it illegal except to rape.

[StradivariusTV]

i think that we need to make it illegal except to rape.I can rape an abortion?

[zrts2002]

no. i mean the only time abortion should be legal is in the case of rape

[dojo]

Always legal. We had some times in our recent history, when, to make up for the decrease in the number of births the state decided to make abortion illegal. You cannot guess how many women died because of improper abortions and how many kids were born with malformations because of the women try to abort them ...

[MisterHoho]

Always legal? Are you crazy? Do you even know what partial-birth abortions are like?

[Flammable Ear Curtain]

Legal for the first 6 months, i say. Beyond then is criminal to kill such a being, if we are of such a civilised nature; us humans, that is. Saying that, even 3 months is difficult, but you have to set a limit within reason, to allow for desperate situations, and unplanned times.

[chachynga]

Always legal? Are you crazy? Do you even know what partial-birth abortions are like?no shi t

[MisterHoho]

no shi t
That question wasn't directed at you, fool.

[zrts2002]

That question wasn't directed at you, fool.
who was it directed to then.

[Rancor]

who was it directed to then.It was directed at Dojo (http://lifeisadisease.com/showthread.php?p=9188#post9188). Time and time again, you demonstrate your inability to read and take notice.

[JeremiahGateFan]

when he said "no shi t" he was agreeing with you, and I repeat his statement, with a twist; no fuc kin shi t! he wasn't answering the question, so I will, they crush the skull of the baby right after he's born

[zrts2002]

when he said "no shi t" he was agreeing with you, and I repeat his statement, with a twist; no fuc kin shi t! he wasn't answering the question, so I will, they crush the skull of the baby right after he's born
wow... thats gruesome

[Double Big J]

i think it should be illegal because people shouldnt take one life for another

I fully agree with what you said.

[zrts2002]

I fully agree with what you said.
THANK YOU!!! you aare one of the first people that has ever agreed w/ me. its like "oh my God, I'm gonna die if I don't get an abortion."

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