Terror Plot Stopped

[Daniel]

Terrorists planned to use MP3 players and energy drinks to blow up as many as 10 jetliners bound for the United States, authorities said Thursday.

A senior congressional source said it's believed the plotters planned to mix a "British version of Gatorade" with a gel-like substance to make an explosive that they would possibly trigger with an MP3 player or cell phone.

British and Pakistani authorities joined forces to block the plot to bomb the airliners, officials said.

British police acted urgently overnight, arresting 21 people in what U.S. government officials said privately could have been the biggest terrorist attack since 9/11.

From CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/10/us.security/index.html).

Pretty significant. Where these guys just trying to blow up the planes or actually hijacke them? First thing I heard this morning.

[Kleophon]

I wish the U.S. could thwart terrorist attacks like that...

[Illuminatus]

The US is considerably bigger, this attack was planned domestically and we were helped with intelligence from Pakistan. The US foreign policy has alienated most of the middle east and Pakistan is part of the Commonwealth of Nations.

[ocean water]

Good job pakistan/british...being new to posting i am not familiar with forum courtesies, please correct me on any detail, i would like to ask/pose a question that is regarding the perspectives of what lays in the nature/propensity of terrorism. should i start a new post? spin/redirect this one? i know this has to appear quite ignorant and it is. may some one throw me a bone here....

[Daniel]

Good job pakistan/british...being new to posting i am not familiar with forum courtesies, please correct me on any detail, i would like to ask/pose a question that is regarding the perspectives of what lays in the nature/propensity of terrorism. should i start a new post? spin/redirect this one? i know this has to appear quite ignorant and it is. may some one throw me a bone here....

I think in this situation you could go ahead and make a new thread (unless it's specifically lated to this terror plot stopped by the british).

Peace.

[lpxxfaintxx]

Wow, this could open up a whole new gateway of terrorist attacks. A drink and an mp3 player? It's amazing what they can think of these days.

[zrts2002]

9/11 would have been bugger because the WTC stopped alot of trade between countries, and messed up the country.

[MisterHoho]

It's too bad Pakistan has all those nukes. We could just run in there and grab Osama, but then the leader would probably be overthrown, and we'd end up with suitcase bombs in the Chrysler Building or Madison Square Gardens.

It sucks having so much of the world hate you.

[zrts2002]

we almost ALMOST had osama, then that loser we call a president too 90% of our troops out of Afghanastan to Iraq.

[MisterHoho]

we almost ALMOST had osama, then that loser we call a president too 90% of our troops out of Afghanastan to Iraq.
Get your facts straight. We had Osama surrounded, but the US government didn't want to risk US soldier casualties this soon after 9/11 (they figured that the US population wouldn't take it so well), so they hired locals to go in to get him. Osama, being very rich, bribed the people sent in to help him escape.

And that 'loser' won the election twice. How do you compare?

[rubia126]

hi

Oh my God i am very disappointes to c that many people here have a complete misconception of paskitan and aisan countries ... many people says that pakistan is involved in terror attacks ... my question is that hw its is possibe for a country to involve in terror attack at the same time it self affected by terrorism... www.pakistanshining.com i f u study and research abt pakistan u will come to knew that pakistan is badely affected by sucide bombing... many innocent people die thr in sucide attacks... thats y plz i want all of u to first study research and then say something abt any country.

[VinceBlaze]

hi

Oh my God i am very disappointes to c that many people here have a complete misconception of paskitan and aisan countries ... many people says that pakistan is involved in terror attacks ... my question is that hw its is possibe for a country to involve in terror attack at the same time it self affected by terrorism... www.pakistanshining.com i f u study and research abt pakistan u will come to knew that pakistan is badely affected by sucide bombing... many innocent people die thr in sucide attacks... thats y plz i want all of u to first study research and then say something abt any country.genocide and/or terrorism are widespread throughout middle-eastern and asian countries

[rubia126]

hi

yeah but bcoz of few extreamist y the whole nation should blamed.. thr are people who do nothing thr are innocent kids... y the whole nation named as terrorism :mad:

[VinceBlaze]

hi

yeah but bcoz of few extreamist y the whole nation should blamed.. thr are people who do nothing thr are innocent kids... y the whole nation named as terrorism :mad:perhaps the governments should be punished?

[rubia126]

perhaps the governments should be punished?

hi thr i guess no government is doing its best for fighting the extreamisim but bcoz of these extreamist Pakistan percieved as a terrorist country in all over the world which is really very disapointing cause after visitng www.pakistanshining.com and other sites i really feel that pakistan is really country like ours and on the other hand its presedent is named as ALlly bythe US gov.

[VinceBlaze]

hi thr i guess no government is doing its best for fighting the extreamisim but bcoz of these extreamist Pakistan percieved as a terrorist country in all over the world which is really very disapointing cause after visitng www.pakistanshining.com and other sites i really feel that pakistan is really country like ours and on the other hand its presedent is named as ALlly bythe US gov.shouldnt the Pakistan government be held responsible for its terrorists? people are being beheaded over the internet for the Pakistan government; the Pakistan government is in alliance with its terrorists

[rubia126]

hi

well pakistan's inner politics we can say is really very disgasting... thr is a war between the ruling gov and the oposition and extremist in oposition takes these sort of terror attacks against the government...other wise pakistan's government is beeing a helping hand since 9/11

[VinceBlaze]

hi

well pakistan's inner politics we can say is really very disgasting... thr is a war between the ruling gov and the oposition and extremist in oposition takes these sort of terror attacks against the government...other wise pakistan's government is beeing a helping hand since 9/11it is largely the american perception that the conflicts between middle-eastern governments versus terrorist factions are mere illusions; middle-eastern governments openly denounce terrorism while secretly supporting terrorism; this is the american perception

[rubia126]

it is largely the american perception that the conflicts between middle-eastern governments versus terrorist factions are mere illusions; middle-eastern governments openly denounce terrorism while secretly supporting terrorism; this is the american perception

hi

well this perception is wrong... i just want to know that how a country could be a terroriest whr at the same time it self affected by terrorism..i think u dont know but pakistan it self affected by suicide bombing... many people died thr in sudden suicide bombing attacks.. how it is possible for a country tell me... thats y in my previous replies i ask u guys to visit pakistan shining whr u come to c a true imageof an asian country

[VinceBlaze]

hi

well this perception is wrong...seems to clear to me

i just want to know that how a country could be a terroriest whr at the same time it self affected by terrorism..because there are multiple factions which war against each other

i think u dont know but pakistan it self affected by suicide bombing...thats plain to see

many people died thr in sudden suicide bombing attacks..terrorism is rampant in pakistan

how it is possible for a country tell me...again, multiple factions

thats y in my previous replies i ask u guys to visit pakistan shining whr u come to c a true imageof an asian countrythe website doesnt paint the full picture

[rubia126]

ok you can ask me what else you wanna know about pakistan i gave u the link to show u the country side...do u visit that images it really touches my heart ... and abt the terrorism ... every asian country affected by it but pakistan a bit more cause many afghan refujes migrate here illegaly that could be the another reason for terrorism in pakistan

[VinceBlaze]

ok you can ask me what else you wanna know about pakistan...okay

and abt the terrorism ... every asian country affected by it but pakistan a bit morehow many terrorists were born and raised in pakistan?

[rubia126]

none... cause no buddy is terrorist by birth.. its the social and economical tortures that make a human an animal ... second thing how come ur so shure abt the birth of terrorists in pakistan...

i told u before that pakistan itself affected by the terorrism

here i give you the biggest example of terror attack done by the USA on heroshima and nagasaky been attacked by an atomic weapon... billions of people die in a minute there no question on that???

[VinceBlaze]

none... cause no buddy is terrorist by birth.. the idealogies of terrorism are often trained to children from birth

its the social and economical tortures that make a human an animal ... this is one component, but religious indoctrination is another component

second thing how come ur so shure abt the birth of terrorists in pakistan...because pakistani terrorists are beheading americans via videotape footage while doing so in the express name of pakistani government; the loss of even one life is tragic

i told u before that pakistan itself affected by the terorrismsome pakistanis are for terrorism and some pakistanis are against terrorism

here i give you the biggest example of terror attack done by the USA on heroshima and nagasaky been attacked by an atomic weapon... actually, there were about 130,000 killed in these attacks; a number which pales in comparison to the genocide of many millions perpretrated by individual nations in the last few decades

billions of people die in a minute there no question on that???billions did not die in a minute; nor even millions; there are only 6 billion people on the earth; however, hitler's genocide campaigns killed many millions, for example

[rubia126]

the idealogies of terrorism are often trained to children from birth

this is one component, but religious indoctrination is another component

ur wrong here if its a relegious componenrt then go for the countries LIke UAE they are also muslim countries why only poiting out pakistan let me tell u the reason cause pakistan is an underdevelping poor country huh.. and on the other hand islam dosent allow anyone to hurt even a a living thing so humans are more far story... again study about islam and then say .. its un acceptable to say anything abt any relegion wihtout knowing abt it.

because pakistani terrorists are beheading americans via videotape footage while doing so in the express name of pakistani government; the loss of even one life is tragic

can u prove that videos arent fake.. listen am not saying that they are fake but ur ignoring the other side of the wall.

some pakistanis are for terrorism and some pakistanis are against terrorism

this isue is with every country how can u be so sure that no American is terrorist go for the logic am not saying that all americans are terrorist may be few of them likely all muslims are not terrorist may be some of them or may be none of them

actually, there were about 130,000 killed in these attacks; a number which pales in comparison to the genocide of many millions perpretrated by individual nations in the last few decades

billions did not die in a minute; nor even millions; there are only 6 billion people on the earth; however, hitler's genocide campaigns killed many millions, for example

but inccocent people died thats the main poit sir


ok do me a favor u seems to be quite interewsted in these sort of muslim issues go ahead for a esearch from 9/11 till now in wars named as "war againts terrorism" how many people died and how much of them were muslims???

[VinceBlaze]

ur wrong here if its a relegious componenrt then go for the countries LIke UAE they are also muslim countries several countries have muslim influence in addition to pakistan

why only poiting out pakistan let me tell u the reason cause pakistan is an underdevelping poor country huh.. wherein terrorists admit to reside

and on the other hand islam dosent allow anyone to hurt even a a living thing so humans are more far story... here are some direct quotes from the koran:

Koran 5:33 Bilateral Amputation!
The Punishment for those who oppose Allah and his messenger is : Execution or Crucifixion or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides or exile from the land.

Smite the neck and cut fingertips of unbelievers
8.12: When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

Severe Punishment for non-believers
22.19: These are two adversaries who dispute about their Lord; then (as to) those who disbelieve, for them are cut out garments of fire, boiling water shall be poured over their heads.
22.20: With it shall be melted what is in their bellies and (their) skins as well.

Koran 17:16-17 Allah will commit genocide
When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet transgress; so that Allah's word is proved true against them: then we destroy them utterly. How many generations have we destroyed after Noah? And enough is thy Lord to note and see the Sins of his servants.

again study about islam and then say .. its un acceptable to say anything abt any relegion wihtout knowing abt it.the koran tells me quite a bit about islam, and the terrorists of islam fulfill what is written in their book

can u prove that videos arent fake.. yes, the bodies were later dumped beheaded

listen am not saying that they are fake but ur ignoring the other side of the wall.the dead bodies left behind were not fake

this isue is with every country how can u be so sure that no American is terrorist go for the logic am not saying that all americans are terrorist may be few of themUs terrorists dont attack other countries; pakistani terrorists attack americans

likely all muslims are not terrorist may be some of them or may be none of them may be none of them? pakistanis are beheading americans over the internet; they openly declare themselves to be pakistani; whereas americans are not beheading pakistanis over the internet

but inccocent people died thats the main poit sirso also in the attacks against the world trade center; unfortunately, terrorists use civilian shields to protect themselves; while simultaneously targeting strictly civilian buildings in the US such as the world trade center towers

ok do me a favor u seems to be quite interewsted in these sort of muslim issues go ahead for a esearch from 9/11 till now in wars named as "war againts terrorism" how many people died and how much of them were muslims???most muslims die at the hands of middle-easterners as opposed to dying from US attacks

[rubia126]

hahaha plz use common sense dear " have u ever seen a crimnal providing proves against himself" hehehe thats stupid to me cause for even a small sin i try to hide it from whole world " and according to u pakistani on internet saying that we are pakistani and c that we are beheading Americans" sir if it was acceptable that bush will attacked pakistan in his first priority these all are idotic it only ur misperception abt the pakistan's people

abt the teaching of islam the verse u wote for the different nations and u didnt wrote them completely the worst u wrote for the nation for whihc "ALLAH " miyan give every facilty and ask them to follow Allah's messengers but those nations deny Allah's meesenger and as apunichment Allah destroy those

if u study even muslims are not even allowed to destroy chrurch and other relegious temple we are not even allowed to destroye relegious building from islam we are asked to respect every relegion

yes in afghanistan taliban start a horrible concept of suside bombing but beleive me that s i completely un accepetable in islam these are just the wrong perception of those who are just fighting for thr own benefits.

[VinceBlaze]

hahaha plz use common sense dear " have u ever seen a crimnal providing proves against himself" hehehe thats stupid to me cause for even a small sin i try to hide it from whole world " actually, these terrorists have masked themselves while declaring their threats

here are the pakistani-published demands:

NATIONAL MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION OF PAKISTAN SOVEREIGNTY (NMRPS)

We still demand the following:

- The immediate release of U.S. held prisoners in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

- The return of Pakistani prisoners to Pakistan.

- The immediate end of U.S. presence in Pakistan.

- The delivery of F-16 planes that Pakistan had paid for and never received.

and according to u pakistani on internet saying that we are pakistani and c that we are beheading Americans" according to me? these things are openly published on the internet and have been at the center of the US news when they were released; you take a very passive stance on terrorist violence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pearl#The_Daniel_Pearl_video

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pearl

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/04/20/asia/AS-GEN-Pakistan-Child-Executioner.php

sir if it was acceptable that bush will attacked pakistan in his first priority these all are idotic it only ur misperception abt the pakistan's peopleyoure minimizing the seriousness of murder

abt the teaching of islam the verse u wote for the different nations and u didnt wrote them completely the worst u wrote for the nation for whihc "ALLAH " miyan give every facilty and ask them to follow Allah's messengers but those nations deny Allah's meesenger and as apunichment Allah destroy thoseallah's messengers are sick to condone koran-based torture for any reason

if u study even muslims are not even allowed to destroy chrurch and other relegious temple we are not even allowed to destroye relegious building from islam we are asked to respect every relegion human lives are worth much more than mere buildings; priorities please

yes in afghanistan taliban start a horrible concept of suside bombing but beleive me that s i completely un accepetable in islam these are just the wrong perception of those who are just fighting for thr own benefits.i had not referenced suicide bombings; i had referenced pakistani-perpetrated beheadings

[rubia126]

hey listen

if u dont how to respect any relegion then i wont be in this coversation alright i damn care whatever u think abt pakistan or Our islam but dont u dare say somthing abt our messengers cause whatever ur sayin is un acceptable i wont be doing anything i will just Ask Allah miyan to frigive cause right now you dont wanna listen anything no one can help u except ur self

or As far as PAkistan is concerned is soing its best to fight terrorissm dosent matter that u admit it or not but thats the truth

[VinceBlaze]

here again are the teachings of the koran which you adhere to:

Koran 5:33 Bilateral Amputation!
The Punishment for those who oppose Allah and his messenger is : Execution or Crucifixion or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides or exile from the land.

Smite the neck and cut fingertips of unbelievers
8.12: When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

Severe Punishment for non-believers
22.19: These are two adversaries who dispute about their Lord; then (as to) those who disbelieve, for them are cut out garments of fire, boiling water shall be poured over their heads.
22.20: With it shall be melted what is in their bellies and (their) skins as well.

Koran 17:16-17 Allah will commit genocide
When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet transgress; so that Allah's word is proved true against them: then we destroy them utterly. How many generations have we destroyed after Noah? And enough is thy Lord to note and see the Sins of his servants.

-

and here again are the demands of pakistani terrorists who speak in the name of pakistani government:

NATIONAL MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION OF PAKISTAN SOVEREIGNTY (NMRPS)

We still demand the following:

- The immediate release of U.S. held prisoners in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

- The return of Pakistani prisoners to Pakistan.

- The immediate end of U.S. presence in Pakistan.

- The delivery of F-16 planes that Pakistan had paid for and never received.

hey listen

if u dont how to respect any relegion my precise disrespect is directed at your koran-based islam for its unholy propagation of torture, decapitations and murder

then i wont be in this coversation alright thats entirely up to you

i damn care whatever u think abt pakistan or Our islam it is the uncaring nature of koran-based islam that propagates unholy torture, decapitations and murder

but dont u dare say somthing abt our messengers your messengers endorse the unholy message of koran-based torture, decapitations and murder

cause whatever ur sayin is un acceptable youve simply rejected the message of common humaneness

i wont be doing anything i will just Ask Allah miyan to frigive cause right now you dont wanna listen anything forgive me for not aligning myself with the message of unholy koran-based torture, decapitations and murder?

no one can help u except ur selfthose in need of help are those who endorse unholy koran-based torture, decapitations and murder on the basis that they are mentally ill

or As far as PAkistan is concerned is soing its best to fight terrorissm perhaps if pakistan forsook the message of koran-based torture, decapitation and murder, the terrorists would not feel encouraged to fulfill the barbarism of such an unholy book

dosent matter that u admit it or not admit what? youve been given the evidence, and youve rejected it

but thats the truththe truth of what? that allah destroys those who dont submit to koran-based intimidation tactics?

[rubia126]

hey
u need guaidence any the verses ur pating here are incomplete the story behind these verses is completely different, i recommond u to watch peace TV if u wanna know abt islam and teaching from Allah .

finall things about Pakistan. pakistan is underdeveloping nation which itself affected by the terrorism.. its ben doingr8 job against the war of terrorism with USA.. the nation is doing its best to fight extreamism.. and its worlds one of the bests country .. karachi is in the top big cities of the world. www.pakistanshining.com will show u its true picture